This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at http://miri.my/2015/12/08/%e5%a4%a9%e7%8e%8b%e5%a5%b3%e4%ba%ba%e8%87%aa%e7%88%86%ef%bc%9a%e8%a2%ab%e5%a1%9e%e7%ba%b8%e9%92%9e%e3%80%80%e9%81%ad%e3%80%8c%e9%80%bc%e5%96%9d%e9%85%92%e3%80%8d%ef%bc%81/