Indonesian Islamists scream for holy war against Myanmar

Huge groups of Islamic leaders and activists took to the Myanmar embassy in Jakarta over the weekend to demand an end to the genocide being perpetrated against the Rohingya Muslim population in that country. They have threatened to attack the embassy in order to push their support forward.

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Some 50 Indonesian police stood in front of the building to block the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI) and Jemaah Anshorut Tauhid (JAT) from getting close to the diplomatic building. The two organizations, who made international headlines earlier this year by criticizing and eventually forcing Lady Gaga to cancel her Jakarta performance, claimed they would start a jihad against the Myanmar government if the violence does not end.

If embassy officials refuse to talk with us, I demand all of you break into the building and turn it upside down, a leader on a loudspeaker told protesters. Every drop of blood that is shed from a Muslim must be paid back. Nothing is free in this world, the man shouted, as protesters carried banners that read FPI is ready to wage jihad.

Go to Myanmar and carry out jihad for your Muslim brothers, the man said.


Myanmar: These Rohingyas are not our people, if any countries want they can have them

Communal violence between ethnic Buddhist Rakhine and local Muslims, including the Rohingya, swept Myanmars Rakhine state in June, leaving dozens dead and tens of thousands homeless. Around 800,000 Rohingyas live in Myanmar and are considered to be some of the worlds most persecuted minorities.

Myanmar President Thein Sein told the UN on Thursday it was impossible to accept the illegally entered Rohingyas, who are not our people, saying they should be sent to refugee camps or be deported. Myanmar considers the Rohingyas as illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, claiming it is unimaginable to give citizenship to illegals.

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Village burnt in Myanmar

Decades of discrimination have left the Rohingya stateless, with Myanmar implementing restrictions on their movement and withholding land rights, education and public services, the UN says.

The recent conflict was started in May 28, when a group of three Muslims including two Rohingyas, robbed, raped and murdered an ethnic Rakhine Buddhist woman, Ma Thida Htwe, near the Kyaut Ne Maw village. On June 4, a Buddhist mob attacked a bus in Taungup, mistakenly believing those responsible for the murder were on board. Ten Muslims were killed in the reprisal attack prompting protests by Burmese Muslims in the commercial capital, Yangon.

Calling for revenge, on June 8, a large mob of Muslim Rohingyas went rampage and burnt 14 Rakhine Buddhist villages and nearly 1,000 houses over the course of the next few days. Outraged, the Rakhine Buddhists retaliated, leading to the Rakhine state riots. From June 12 onwards, the tide was reversed, it is now Rakhine Buddhists burning Muslim Rohingya villages and houses.


Rohingya Muslims want Rakhine Buddhists to stop killing

By June 15, the Rakhines overwhelmed the Rohingyas, leading to 30,000 of them fleeing to nearby Bangladesh. As of June 28, this figure increased to an estimated 90,000 people. The death toll, meanwhile, topped 80. Bangladeshi authorities refused the Rohingyas entry into their country. Dipu Moni, Foreign Minister of Bangladesh, said at a news conference in the capital, Dhaka, that it was not in Bangladeshs interest to accept any refugees because the impoverished countrys resources already are strained.

Myanmar’s ASEAN neighbors have largely been silent. One of the most preferred destination for the Rohingyas is Malaysia, and that country has been trying to steer clear from Myanmar’s inter-ethnic issues, so to avoid the possibilities of absorbing an influx of stateless refugees.

Singapore, who recently signed multi-billion dollar contracts to tap into Myanmar’s extensive resources, refused to criticize the Burmese regime. Thailand, worried that the Rohingyas may flee en masses and cause instability across the Thai border, is reluctant to put restraint on the Burmese government or being involved in the issues.

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Rakhine Buddhists want Rohingya Muslims to stop committing crimes

Philippines, who has its very own Muslim separatist problems in the south, has so far been relatively quiet. Indonesia, whose government is growing impatient with the 10,000 or more asylum seekers using its country as a waiting room, and wants Australia to accept more of them to reduce that numbers, frets on the slightest notion of Rohingya refugees entering Indonesia.

“We (Indonesia) hope that the Myanmar government will solve their own domestic problem.” The outgoing ambassador of Indonesia in Dhaka Zet Mirzal Zainuddin said. Brunei, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos expressed no opinion.

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the clown said “Every drop of blood that is shed from a Muslim must be paid back. Nothing is free in this world” … does he doesnt know that the world is round … every blood u make others shed … must be paid back …

if they want them so much, just request Indonesian government to bring in and these protester can feed these people themselves.

Idiots…some people do not know how to think…must’ve been failed to achieve 90 score in IQ test…

[quote=“Athrun_zala_faith”]if they want them so much, just request Indonesian government to bring in and these protester can feed these people themselves.

Idiots…some people do not know how to think…must’ve been failed to achieve 90 score in IQ test…[/quote]

of all possible ways to solve a problem,
rest assured they will ALWAYS settle for the VIOLENT way to solve it…

what happen to all the “love thy neighbours and all” that stuff?

so hard mehh…convert out of muslim la…so what if they call u kafir…no other religion would label any of their ex-believers with such label.

[quote=“DMsia”][quote=“Athrun_zala_faith”]if they want them so much, just request Indonesian government to bring in and these protester can feed these people themselves.

Idiots…some people do not know how to think…must’ve been failed to achieve 90 score in IQ test…[/quote]

of all possible ways to solve a problem,
rest assured they will ALWAYS settle for the VIOLENT way to solve it…

what happen to all the “love thy neighbours and all” that stuff?[/quote]

I think you got it wrong here about the " love they neighbours…" cause that was from Jesus, the founder of Christianity. And not from Islam or Muhammad.

43 You have heard the law that says, Love your neighbor[r] and hate your enemy. 44 But I say, love your enemies![s] Pray for those who persecute you! 45 In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. 46 If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. 47 If you are kind only to your friends,[t] how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. 48 But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. (Matthew 5: 43, The Bible NLT)

or 19 Honor your father and mother. Love your neighbor as yourself.[a] (Matthew 19:19, The Bible, NLT)

and many more examples from the Bible at http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch … ersion=NLT

Watchman, are you able to see beyond Christianity ?

But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
Galatians 5:21-24 (The Bible, NLT).

Job 12:12
Wisdom belongs to the aged, and understanding to the old. (NLT)

Job 28:28
Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom, and to depart from evil is understanding. (NKJV)

Psalm 37:30
The godly offer good counsel; they teach right from wrong. (NLT)

Psalm 107:43
Whoever is wise, let him heed these things and consider the great love of the LORD. (NIV)

Psalm 111:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. (NIV)

Proverbs 1:7
Fear of the Lord is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. (NLT)

Proverbs 3:7
Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil. (NIV)

Proverbs 4:6-7
Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you. Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. (NIV)

Proverbs 10:13
Wisdom is found on the lips of him who has understanding, but a rod is for the back of him who is devoid of understanding. (NKJV)

Proverbs 10:19
When words are many, sin is not absent, but he who holds his tongue is wise. (NIV)

Proverbs 11:2
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. (NIV)

Proverbs 11:30
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and he who wins souls is wise. (NIV)

Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. (NIV)

Proverbs 13:1
A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, but a mocker does not listen to rebuke. (NIV)

Proverbs 13:10
Pride only breeds quarrels, but wisdom is found in those who take advice. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:1
The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:6
The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:8
The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:33
Wisdom rests in the heart of him who has understanding, but what is in the heart of fools is made known. (NKJV)

Proverbs 15:24
The path of life leads upward for the wise to keep him from going down to the grave. (NIV)

Proverbs 15:31
He who listens to a life-giving rebuke will be at home among the wise. (NIV)

Proverbs 16:16
How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver! (NIV)

Proverbs 17:24
A discerning man keeps wisdom in view, but a fool’s eyes wander to the ends of the earth. (NIV)

Proverbs 18:4
The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters, but the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook. (NIV)

Proverbs 19:11
Sensible people control their temper; they earn respect by overlooking wrongs. (NLT)

Proverbs 19:20
Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. (NIV)

My answer is YES.

looks like a staunch believer …

But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!
Galatians 5:21-24 (The Bible, NLT).

Job 12:12
Wisdom belongs to the aged, and understanding to the old. (NLT)

Job 28:28
Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom, and to depart from evil is understanding. (NKJV)

Psalm 37:30
The godly offer good counsel; they teach right from wrong. (NLT)

Psalm 107:43
Whoever is wise, let him heed these things and consider the great love of the LORD. (NIV)

Psalm 111:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. (NIV)

Proverbs 1:7
Fear of the Lord is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. (NLT)

Proverbs 3:7
Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil. (NIV)

Proverbs 4:6-7
Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you. Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. (NIV)

Proverbs 10:13
Wisdom is found on the lips of him who has understanding, but a rod is for the back of him who is devoid of understanding. (NKJV)

Proverbs 10:19
When words are many, sin is not absent, but he who holds his tongue is wise. (NIV)

Proverbs 11:2
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. (NIV)

Proverbs 11:30
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and he who wins souls is wise. (NIV)

Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. (NIV)

Proverbs 13:1
A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, but a mocker does not listen to rebuke. (NIV)

Proverbs 13:10
Pride only breeds quarrels, but wisdom is found in those who take advice. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:1
The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:6
The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:8
The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception. (NIV)

Proverbs 14:33
Wisdom rests in the heart of him who has understanding, but what is in the heart of fools is made known. (NKJV)

Proverbs 15:24
The path of life leads upward for the wise to keep him from going down to the grave. (NIV)

Proverbs 15:31
He who listens to a life-giving rebuke will be at home among the wise. (NIV)

Proverbs 16:16
How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver! (NIV)

Proverbs 17:24
A discerning man keeps wisdom in view, but a fool’s eyes wander to the ends of the earth. (NIV)

Proverbs 18:4
The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters, but the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook. (NIV)

Proverbs 19:11
Sensible people control their temper; they earn respect by overlooking wrongs. (NLT)

Proverbs 19:20
Listen to advice and accept instruction, and in the end you will be wise. (NIV)

My answer is YES.[/quote]

Watchman, good for you but you dont have to go on the defensive and throws verses after verses from Old Testament? at me :slight_smile:

okay , i want to cross a river as do you and all others to go to the other side.

i use a raft, you use a canoe, some uses a log,some just swim across while countless others uses boats.

who among us all can each say our way is the best method to cross the river?

as for me all method used to reach the other side of the river is good.

gorshan, thanks for the advice. Gone overboard this time :slight_smile: , maybe, most of the time.