Earth's 100 Year Starship Project

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[justify]Program called “100 Year Starship” was initiated by the research agency which is incorporated into the Pentagon. It assumes a plan that will allow humanity over the next century to go on a long journey into space. And it’s not a trip to Mars, it is definitely too close.[/justify]

[justify]The program came forward 150 candidates from the public and are reportedly among them familiar names. Interest in the project include Craig Venter, a millionaire, as well as the scientist, whose team was the first able to resolve a particular human genome map, and now is working on artificial life, and alternative fuels. Winner of the “100 Year Starship” will receive a half million dollars. This money will provide initial capital for the development of the idea. In total, the agency plans to spend on this project, a million dollars. About this, whose idea was the best, we will see in November at a special conference to be held in Orlando, Florida. Before the participants is a difficult task, because it is not enough to develop a new type of drive. Distances us from the nearest stars are enormous, it remains so many other factors that must be taken into account when planning such a trip. To solve the problem remains, inter alia, the impact of long-distance space travel on human health, tudzie develop drugs that will be able to retain all its properties, no matter how long it will stay in space.
More information: DARPA’s 100-year Starship Study: http://www.100yss.org[/justify]

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Hi McNet, Just want to share the best information of installer travel. Okay let begin, as we know DARPA/NASA/ESA is to use their resources start building the Icarus fusion engine. Using all that SDI research to build a very powerful laser to see and how fast they can blast. I believe you all know NASA website NASAs http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/home/index.html [justify]is the frontrunner for the space agency in this project and they are looking to recruit people from ALL fields of expertise stretching from Botanists to Geneticists. As much as it is interesting to learn more about NASAs interest it is far more interesting to read what DARPA is cooking up for this modern Ark. I will share with you some specifics in the document. First here is a paragraph discussing the basic idea of this project.
The following are some of the reasons for this interstellar expedition.[/justify]
[justify] Human survival: ideas related to creating a legacy for the human species, backing up the Earths biosphere, and enabling long-term survival in the face of catastrophic disasters on Earth.
Contact with other life: finding answers to whether there is other life in the universe, whether intelligent life exists elsewhere in the galaxy, and at a basic level, whether we are alone in the universe.
Evolution of the human species: exploration as a human imperative, expansion of human understanding and consciousness through space exploration.
Scientific discovery: breakthroughs in scientific understanding of the natural universe, a pursuit for knowledge.
Belief and faith: a search for God or the Divine, a need to explore beyond Earths atmosphere as a part of natural theology or as found through religious revelation.[/justify]
[justify]There is even discussion of Terra-forming a new planet as part of this project. Only reasonable explanation for that is to colonize MORE planets. Believe it or not US governments Secret Space program (future report) does and has existed for quite sometime. The Space Shuttle Astronauts are miniscule compared to what Above Top Secret government projects already have in space and on some of the closer planets and moons.[/justify]

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The idea of making new Earths for colonizing is included in the report I found and it even includes a preliminary timeline.

  • In less than five years:
    o Prove other Earths exist
    o Social involvement to create a world view of hope
    o Blockbuster movie (grossing more than $500M) that provokes public involvement and imagination
    o 100-Year Starship organization: create a credible organization plan, pursue endorsements
    o 100-Year Starship organization: 100 high-profile supporters of the 100-Year Starship goals in a public advertisement
  • In less than ten years:
    o Land humans on Mars
    o Communication via quantum entanglement (faster-than-light communication)
    o Generation of life from computer code, without cellular systems
    o Development of ability to sink carbon (i.e., green or recycling efforts) on Earth faster than were creating it (with implications for terraforming other rocky planets or moons)
  • In less than 20 years:
    o Image of another close Earth
    o Telepresent probe on the surface of Europa
    o Capability to discover non-Earth-based life
  • In less than 25 years:

o Bounce a signal off an exoplanet

  • In less than 30 years:

o Non-propellant satellite to Oort Cloud

There is more, much more in the document so have a look at it along with a few others.
http://www.4shared.com/document/FYPRCYwD/RFI_-_100_Year_Starship_Study.html
http://www.4shared.com/document/eRB00-yJ/StarshipNewsRelease.html
http://www.4shared.com/document/T-l5dlkN/100YSS_January_Synopsis.html

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[justify]Theyve held a symposium, put out an official Request for Information (RFI) looking for ideas about how a long-term human mission to boldly go out to the stars could possibly happen, they have an official website.
It appears they are serious about this.
However, contrary to what the title of the project might suggest, its not so much about actually building a starship that could accomplish such a long distance journey, but more about solving all the various technical, medical, sociological and economic problems; so that one day perhaps in a 100 years or so we actually could build one and humanity could head for the stars.
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Ultimately though, the broader challenge for such a project would in fact be to launch a new breed of pilgrim on a journey that would span many lifetimes. The biggest initial problem to solve is coming to terms with an acceptable propulsion system. That will determine the time span and all other mission specifications. But, we are not likely to invent a “warp drive” anytime in the next few centuries. Sorry Star Trek fans.[/justify]

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[justify]So we won’t be approaching anything like light-speed in the foreseeable future. The closest warp speed number might be more like Warp Factor 001. Theoretically, a warp drive might be possible Alcubierre drive in the distant future, but we would need to also invent technologies far advanced of anything we can currently foresee.

Thus, the closest star, at 4.2 light years away from Earth (a distance of 4.2 years at a speed of 186,000 miles/sec), might be reachable in a few hundred years. Even at a terrific one 10th of light-speed (18,600 miles/sec), it would take nearly a century to bridge interstellar space to the closest star system beyond our Sun.[/justify]
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[justify]In fact, we already have two unmanned starships (Voyager 1 and 2 both launched in 1977), already well on their way to entering interstellar space and soon they will be reporting back, for the first time in human history, what lies beyond the heliosphere. That is the bubble of space surrounding our solar system, still influenced by particles from our sun’s solar wind and magnetic field.[/justify]

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[justify]Both Voyager spacecraft are now traveling at speeds over 3 AU per year, nearly 280 million miles/year (1AU=distance from the Earth to the Sun), or roughly 53 miles/sec in their sprint to cross into the interstellar medium. Voyager 1 is estimated to pass out of the heliosphere anytime between now and 2014. But they are not currently being driven by any propulsion system.[/justify]

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[justify]A manned starship would no doubt continue to accelerate, achieving many times the velocity of either Voyager spacecraft. Assuming we could even achieve a 10th of light speed in a manned starship, we would also need to begin decelerating at some point in the journey. That will also add time.[/justify]

[center]Straight from DARPA-
http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2011/2011/06/15_DARPA_Encourages_Individuals_and_Organizations_to_Look_to_the_Stars.aspx
http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2011/2011/05/05_DARPA_Releases_Request_for_Information_for_the_100_Year_Starship_Study.aspx
http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2011/2011/02/09_100-Year_Starship_Study_Strategic_Planning_Workshop_Held.aspx[/center]
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[justify]It truly is an amazing and beautiful Universe but it is not ours to destroy. Humans dont exactly have the best track record when it comes to moving into new territory. The Universe must be treated with respect in the same way Earth does and all fellow Humans.[/justify]
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[justify]So at the very least, with our highest hope for speed over distance to another star, humans would need to last almost 200 years to fulfill the dream of reaching another potential exoplanetary system, realizing the hope of finding another habitable Earth-like planet.[/justify]

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as far as I can tell right now…
major problems are in the way of such prospects…
chief among them is…

-growing food in outer space.
-having a drive engine system that have a more reliable and infinite source of fuel.
-retaining proper body functions after prolonged periods in space (weightlessness, etc etc etc can cause complications in the body functions
if the said body have been in space for years)…
-these are just some of the few problems, if I recall correctly.

but this few reasons was ones i read from a few years back…
maybe they have more or less solved (or at the least, soften the consequences) this problems at this age,who knows…

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[quote=“DMsia”]as far as I can tell right now…
major problems are in the way of such prospects…
chief among them is…

-growing food in outer space.
-having a drive engine system that have a more reliable and infinite source of fuel.
-retaining proper body functions after prolonged periods in space (weightlessness, etc etc etc can cause complications in the body functions
if the said body have been in space for years)…
-these are just some of the few problems, if I recall correctly.

but this few reasons was ones i read from a few years back…
maybe they have more or less solved (or at the least, soften the consequences) this problems at this age,who knows…[/quote]

DMsia, DARPA & NASA have call individual to a public symposium that will be held this October 2011 in Orlando, Florida.
This one also will include in the conference :
-Biology and Space Medicine [physiology in space, psychology in space, human life suspension (e.g., cryogenic), medical facilities and capabilities in space, on-scene (end of journey) spawning from genetic material]
Check this out : http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Release … Stars.aspx

#4

Actually, we can travel to other planets but this technology is suppress by government until time comes. All this project are just an opening to us, just to start slow so that we will not be like SAKAI.

See : Lockheed CEO. http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2010/0 … -are-real/

#5

bloody stupid human. already got the best planet in the whole galaxy also dont know how to take care of properly.

better rot die in this corner of the universe than spread our stupidity to other galaxies.

#6

the next few years earth will be depopulated by 90%.

A one world government will take over making a fair and clean world for all of us

#7

[quote=“gorshan”]bloody stupid human. already got the best planet in the whole galaxy also dont know how to take care of properly.

better rot die in this corner of the universe than spread our stupidity to other galaxies.[/quote]

gorshan, i don’t think your next generation will survive for the next thousand years,unless we spread into space. There are too many accidents that can befall life on a single planets.

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[quote=“2012”]the next few years earth will be depopulated by 90%.

A one world government will take over making a fair and clean world for all of us[/quote]
What I can think about the one world government crap

#9

Anyway, back to topic

Wall-E anyone?
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[quote=“MetalHead”][quote=“2012”]the next few years earth will be depopulated by 90%.

A one world government will take over making a fair and clean world for all of us
What I can think about the one world government crap[/quote][/quote]

Dude, just think if you had access to UFO technology?

what would you do?

Just step back and look at all the primitive countries around (including here)

it has already been planed and execution is imminent. :twisted: :twisted:

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[quote=“2012”][quote=“MetalHead”][quote=“2012”]the next few years earth will be depopulated by 90%.

A one world government will take over making a fair and clean world for all of us
What I can think about the one world government crap[/quote][/quote]

Dude, just think if you had access to UFO technology?

what would you do?

Just step back and look at all the primitive countries around (including here)

it has already been planed and execution is imminent. :twisted: :twisted:[/quote]

to be on the safe side just in case better wear this tee to welcome them. so they dont eat you.

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/product/18013253/view/1/type/png/width/280/height/280/i-love-alien-181.png

#12

[quote=“gorshan”][quote=“2012”][quote=“MetalHead”][quote=“2012”]the next few years earth will be depopulated by 90%.

A one world government will take over making a fair and clean world for all of us
What I can think about the one world government crap[/quote][/quote]

Dude, just think if you had access to UFO technology?

what would you do?

Just step back and look at all the primitive countries around (including here)

it has already been planed and execution is imminent. :twisted: :twisted:[/quote]

to be on the safe side just in case better wear this tee to welcome them. so they dont eat you.

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/product/18013253/view/1/type/png/width/280/height/280/i-love-alien-181.png[/quote]

my friend, remember who is your GOD and the Vimana

#13

amazing project… But still imposible.
When reach space, we need force all the time at space. How to overcome that? Fuel? Sure not enought, then machine will damage always, we may need to bring a lot of part with us if we want to travel long way in the universe do we… beside, there is hundred thousand of star, gravity of them will always interfere our ship, then we need force to overcome it. Still many issue need to solve la…
Take bout alien, i do belive there is. And there size is depend on gravity of their planet. But the look will be unknown. Since we already evolve or still evolving… Their interligence realy define them, while their technology depend on their planet’s material. Just 1 day… 1 day we may able to see them. May be they are the god, who create us…

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[quote=“SKL”]amazing project… But still imposible.
When reach space, we need force all the time at space. How to overcome that? Fuel? Sure not enought, then machine will damage always, we may need to bring a lot of part with us if we want to travel long way in the universe do we… beside, there is hundred thousand of star, gravity of them will always interfere our ship, then we need force to overcome it. Still many issue need to solve la…
Take bout alien, i do belive there is. And there size is depend on gravity of their planet. But the look will be unknown. Since we already evolve or still evolving… Their interligence realy define them, while their technology depend on their planet’s material. Just 1 day… 1 day we may able to see them. May be they are the god, who create us…[/quote]

+1
lol…wa…i was thinking about that too…if god …angel may be in many form…than they MAY also be alien

#15

Based on SKL’s reply, actually you do not need to bring shitload of spare parts. You need Sailors for that, or specifically Marine engineers and Marine captains. Why? this is due to the fact that, we have always been self-sustaining. Engine breaks down we find a way to fix it, lots of patches and modifications, etc. But the ship still sails. We do not need people from offshore for sure cos they’re too pampered! something goes wrong, they call office and expect a replacement. too pampered lolx

#16

Astronauts do not come from offshore

They come from dental school, just ask Angkasa Malaysia

#17

[quote=“DMsia”]as far as I can tell right now…
major problems are in the way of such prospects…
chief among them is…

-growing food in outer space.
-having a drive engine system that have a more reliable and infinite source of fuel.
-retaining proper body functions after prolonged periods in space (weightlessness, etc etc etc can cause complications in the body functions
if the said body have been in space for years)…
-these are just some of the few problems, if I recall correctly.

but this few reasons was ones i read from a few years back…
maybe they have more or less solved (or at the least, soften the consequences) this problems at this age,who knows…[/quote]

-growing food in outer space.

Food can be grown hydroponically or aeroponically by astronauts but they have to take all the necessary nutrients with them. If they wanted to grow food on other bodies (asteroids, planets etc) they would have to have a way of mining and refining the necessary nutrients from the environment for the hydro-/aeroponic farm. We do not yet have the technology to do this, in addition the relevant chemicals may not even be present.

-having a drive engine system that have a more reliable and infinite source of fuel.

Fusion Reactor System
Or CrossFire Fusion Reactor
The Magnetic and Electrostatic Nuclear Fusion Reactor, or simply CrossFire Fusion Reactor, is a nuclear fusion reactor designed by Moacir L. Ferreira Jr. for confining and fusing light atomic nuclei at considerable rates, in order to produce enormous quantities of energy without pollution and no neutron hazards.

And
Phase-shift Plasma Turbine

  • The Phase-shift Plasma Turbine is a modified version of the Electrodynamic Space Thruster in order to operate in atmospheric environments, mainly during takeoff, and in space to reuse exhaust gases from chemical rockets to booster the overall ISP, enhancing utilization of both energy and propellant.

-retaining proper body functions after prolonged periods in space (weightlessness, etc etc etc can cause complications in the body functions
if the said body have been in space for years)…

Weightlessness has a huge effect on human health. Muscles atrophy, bone weight decreases, fluids accumulate etc.


-these are just some of the few problems, if I recall correctly.

Interstellar travels will be a great advancement for all mankind.

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[quote=“SKL”]amazing project… But still imposible.
When reach space, we need force all the time at space. How to overcome that? Fuel? Sure not enought, then machine will damage always, we may need to bring a lot of part with us if we want to travel long way in the universe do we… beside, there is hundred thousand of star, gravity of them will always interfere our ship, then we need force to overcome it. Still many issue need to solve la…
Take bout alien, i do belive there is. And there size is depend on gravity of their planet. But the look will be unknown. Since we already evolve or still evolving… Their interligence realy define them, while their technology depend on their planet’s material. Just 1 day… 1 day we may able to see them. May be they are the god, who create us…[/quote]

SKL,ISS is 440 tons and that is for short tons.
Fusion reactor is an achievable technology that could power the thrusters for long journeys.It would be incredible. However, for all the achievements of space exploration, it is still in the research phase and not really part of the main stream. It’s mainstream when Major Corporations take over, and can make serious cash out of developing space resources.
Please read about Eric Lerner’s fusion? http://focusfusion.org/ and http://lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/

"It’s apparent to me that a lot of people seem to want to prove why a technology is not possible, rather than think of ingenious ways to make something possible. It’s my conviction that when someone says something is “impossible,” what they really mean is “our current level of science cannot explain this, and I dont have the motivation to explore beyond its boundaries.” --Richard Obousy’

History is filled by people who say something can’t be done, only to be proven wrong by people who actually do it. People said nothing could travel faster than sound, yet not to long ago, there was an entire airline capable of breaking the sound barrier.

#19

from the source u had given, i do already read some of it. Its all being researh and processing, the thing i concern is we may lack of time, we may even lack of material. U had study much regarding the space, then u shld aware that our time were short. My words imposible was pointed to the time to create such a huge project that could shake the world, many thing needs to be fix b4 it could trial and after trial it would be officialy done. Im always stay at science side, and i belive it may be the 1 of the way to save humankind.

#20

IKAROS is the first spacecraft to successfully demonstrate solar-sail technology in interplanetary space and IKAROS still continue mission until present.